To infinite complacent people went to and fro of the earth about their little affairs,

serene in the assurance of their dominion over this small,

spinning fragment of solar driftwood, which by chance or design,

man has inherited out of the dark mystery of time and space. Thank you. I'm a lot of On this episode of Into the Frey, I welcome Barry on with me.

Barry got in touch.

He did send me a lovely bullet point list, as I like to

mention. It is helpful, and I was mentioning to Barry, why, and he had already mentioned why before I

even said it. But it does help, I think, both of us gives me a roadmap and helps to prod the

brain matter of the person writing the bullet point list of maybe

things they had forgotten. I forget things all the time, so it's helpful. Anyhow, Barry, before we

delve into some of your paranormal experiences, and I say some because, as I said before we

officially started, that I agree in something that you said in

your email which was there is a lot to cover and I am leaning towards what you said that maybe

this should be part one of two or maybe even three episodes that I do with you but would you

mind please telling people a little bit about your professional

background? Because it is very interesting. As much of it as you wanted to talk about, of course,

just a little snapshot of what you do and some of your abilities. Hi, Shannon. Sure, absolutely. Thank you for having me on your show. It's exciting.

Yeah, I've been fortunate. My entire career took place in the state of Florida. I was born in my first

18 years of life. I lived in Western New York, but I went to a commercial art school and I ended up moving to

Florida in the early 80s. And I ended up getting involved in the film industry working as a special

makeup effects guy in a lot of B horror movies. I was a Jack of All Trades in art, different various art forms, mostly out of

necessity to pay the bills. But I always had a passion for films, and I like scary movies as a kid,

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