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Gom Jabbar: A Dune Podcast

Interviews with Frank Herbert: "Gays have opted to not continue the species."

Gom Jabbar: A Dune Podcast

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4.8 • 651 Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2024

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Abu and Leo bring you the words of Frank Herbert himself, pulling from interviews and articles going back over 50 years. In this episode, they examine the deeply troubling statements about homosexuality that Frank made during a speech at UCLA in 1985. This episode contains SPOILERS for Dune, Dune Messiah, Children of Dune, and God Emperor of Dune Get ad-free episodes and bonus content by becoming a Patron Show your appreciation and tip us by buying us a spice coffee Watch video versions of select episodes on YouTube Check out the custom-designed Dune swag on our merch store Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, as she said, I'm Leanne Sharp, and I'm here to introduce Frank Herbert.

0:15.0

But before we do that, we have a couple of announcements we have to do in conjunction for

0:19.6

Engineers Week.

0:20.8

A year after the release of Chapter House, Dune, Frank Herbert was invited to speak to a group of engineering students at UCI.

0:28.6

He was there to speak on a very on-brand topic.

0:32.6

That's it for the announcements for Engineers Week, and I'd like to introduce Frank Herbert. He's written many books, 27

0:39.3

and all, probably most familiar with the Dune series. He's also written things like the

0:44.1

Eyes of Heisenberg, The White Plague, Worlds of Frank Herbert, and his newest book, Chapter

0:49.0

House 1. He currently resides in the Olympian Peninsula in Washington and has a winter home in Hawaii.

0:57.0

And today we'll be talking about is mythology of futurism.

1:01.0

During the next 30 or so minutes, Frank speaks on much more than just the mythology of futurism,

1:08.0

covering everything from his inspirations for writing Dune to the flaws of scientific thinking.

1:14.6

I'm going to declare a heresy for you. All science goes back to something that we believe because we believe it, and we have no proof for it. It's like a religion. But as we increase what we think

1:32.0

we know, we increase our exposure to what we do not know. This is one of the inevitable laws

1:40.2

of our universe. But isn't it more interesting to live in a universe where there are

1:48.7

unknowns to discover?

1:59.6

After his speech, there's a Q&A portion.

2:03.4

One of the students takes the mic and begins their question with a bit of flattery.

2:09.8

Mr. Herbert, I'm on your right.

2:11.8

Okay. Over there?

2:13.6

Yeah.

2:13.8

As a major author of great creativity and insight, you have gained the respect of millions.

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