Great to have you along for the ride. Thanks a lot for stopping bike.

Really glad to have this man back America's pastor. He is the author. He is a great pastor of millions of followers.

It's pastor of Max Lecato.

Pastor, how are you? Good to see you again?

It's great to see you, Joe. How are you doing? I'm living the dream. I'm getting it done and I'm always honored to have you on the program

You got a brand new book called What Happens next to Travelers Guide to the end of this age. I want to get into that as deeply as we can in a moment,

but I talked to you about this just briefly before we started. We are facing a very

strange time in this land and not only here in the United States, but also across

the entire globe. It seems as though if you

focus on it the entire thing's fallen apart but right before we started today I

saw somebody post over on Facebook find something that you can call a win today.

Don't be dragged down by all the negativity.

It's hard for me not to be because I'm in it.

You know what I mean?

I'm in it every day.

Have to report on it.

But is there a way to find a respite

when all this craziness is going on?

Well you're right number one it is a very very fragile world in which we live in.

It's almost like the you, we're one press of a red button away from nuclear disaster

by a strange dictator, yeah. And so it's an anxious time, but we have to find reasons for faith. We have to find

reasons for hope. Otherwise, you know, the pandemic of the coronavirus has turned now into the pandemic of anxiety.

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