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From Wundry this is a special bonus episode of Inside Jaws. I'm Mark Ramsey.

I'm really excited to have with me today.

Carl Gottlieb, Carl is the screenwriter of Jaws, Jaws 2, and Jaws 3.

Now, Carl, do you like Jaws 3 or 3D? I think 3D because that's how it was

made how it was planned and that's what made it difficult. As opposed to the original which was difficult for other reasons. As opposed to the original, which was difficult for other reasons, which we'll get to.

Carl was also the newspaper editor in the original Jaws.

He is also, notably the author of something called the Jaws Log, which is a book about the making

of the movie and the difficulties of the making of the movie.

And it's really one of the best stories I think about the making of a movie I've ever read,

and I've read a lot of those things. It's also one of the sources for

Inside Jaws, the series. So that you didn't know, Carl. No, I didn't.

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So, Carl, let me begin at the beginning with you because your story is really remarkable.

It goes back to the 1960s when you were part of an improv troop in San Francisco called the committee.

Yes. That's an interesting place to start to get from there to Martha's Vineyard and Jaws.

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