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You are listening to the Next Best Picture podcast, and this is Daniel Howitt's interview,

with the composer for Avatar, The Way of Water, Simon Franklin.

I know one thing.

Wherever we come, this family is our fortress simon thank you so much for for taking time to talk with me

been a big few weeks for Avatar.

I think I checked this morning.

I think it's the seventh biggest movie of all time and of course, still climbing, obviously.

So yeah, how has it been since release, just kind of celebrating this incredible success?

I think the single word I'd use is relief.

I think, I think it's this strange situation where you go into work, you know something

is very special.

Because I would see scenes like, for instance, when the kids first dive into the water,

and you go, and I, you know, we don't get to see, you know, we gradually, the renders come through, so we see better and better qualities because we're working.

But that was one of the early renders.

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