Hey there, this is Erica Kelly, and you're listening to Seven Fried True Crime.

Today I have another special guest on the show, Dr. Peter Ronsky, who is a Canadian author,

film maker and investigative historian. He holds a PhD in criminal justice history and

espionage and international relations. He's on the show today to discuss his upcoming

book, The Sons of Cain, A History of Serial Killers, from the Stone Age to the present.

This is his third book on serial killers. He started in 2004 with his book, Serial Killers,

The Methods and Madness of Monsters. And then my favorite, Female Serial Killers, How

and Why Women Become Monsters, which came out in 2007. In Sons of Cain, he is coming full

circle with his first seminal book called Serial Killers. Peter came to study serial killers

after a chance encounter with Richard Coddingham, a torso killer in the 1970s in New York. His

new book is both a more comprehensive book, and yet also a broad look, going back to the

dawn of man to today's monsters, and putting them in the context of the time periods that

produced him. So pour yourself a sweet tea or a whiskey, sit back in our laks, and I hope

you enjoy my chat with the incomparable Peter Vronsky as much as I did.

Hi Peter, welcome to the show. It's really great to have you on. I've been a big fan of yours

for a long time. Thank you. How are you feeling about this new book? I'm very excited, and of

course, you know, this is my third book, so you never know, right? So still a lot of trepidation,

and waiting anxiously for August to see how people react to this book. But so far, it's been

good. It's up on good reads. Some people have been reviewing advanced copies. People are enjoying it,

so I'm happy to hear that. Well, I have to tell you, I loved it. I was already a fan of your

previous work. A lot of times when you get these sort of books, they're, I would almost call it

like an encyclopedia of serial killers. They don't read very easily, and you read, it's writing

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