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and Liverpool University's Kiran McGuire.

Kiran, it's one of our special interview pods.

So let's dispense with the, what have you been doing since we last spoke?

Because we last spoke about 90 seconds ago, oddly about basketball and the size of my microphone.

That's a very male conversation.

But anything interesting happened in the last 90 seconds?

No, no, no, no, yeah, me...

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