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That's the Ancient World Podcast. Hello everyone and welcome to a history of Egypt podcast interview.

My guest today is Dr Aaron Desusa. Aaron Desusa is an archaeologist specializing in the material

culture of Egypt and Nubia. He earned his PhD at Macquarie University, Sydney in 2016, and is now a Marie's Glodowska Curie fellow at the Austrian Academy of Sciences in Vienna.

In the field, Aaron works with ceramics and material culture, particularly in cemetery

contexts. He has published several articles and a book titled New Horizons, the Pan-grave ceramic tradition in context.

Aaron is an insightful researcher, part of the new generation of scholars that are examining and re-examining historical material in new ways.

I am excited to have him on the show and I hope you enjoy the conversation.

Allow me to introduce Dr. Aaron Desusa. So Dr. DeSusa, Aaron, welcome to the History of Egypt podcast and thank you very much for joining the show.

That's okay, thank you for having me. Pleasure to be here. How are things going in Vienna at the moment are you well are you safe? Yeah everything in Vienna has been pretty stable and it's it's been a little scary at the beginning but I think it was handled very well and the government did a good job in keeping people under control and I think by nature

Austrian people are quite

Obedient and well-behaved and they they follow all as well. so it was never really a problem

and social distancing was not a big deal and

get the way back to normal now and back at work every day and

things have opened up again so it's good.

Obviously my listeners will notice that you are not Austrian or East European.

Where are you from and how did you come to Vienna?

So I'm from Australia, from Sydney. I was born and grew up there. My family actually is from Singapore so I'm sort of from a bit of all over the place. But I came to Vienna in January last year. I have a Murray Curie Fellowship from the European Union

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