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Interview: Ken Burns On The Birth of American Democracy — and the Battles That Still Define It

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@mosheh / tentwentytwo

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4.92K Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Few filmmakers have shaped how we understand America quite like Ken Burns. In this episode, Ken joins Mosheh for an in-depth conversation about his newest project — The American Revolution, a sweeping six-part documentary premiering this month on PBS. The series reexamines America’s founding as more than a story of brilliant thinkers in Philadelphia — revealing a violent, fragile, and deeply human struggle for independence that almost failed. Burns explains how remarkable the American Revolution’s promise of “inalienable rights” was, and how the US influenced 200+ years of revolutions around the world. Burns explains why he thinks 1776 was the most consequential event since the birth of Jesus Christ. Burns also discusses the present: What the Founders’ era can teach us about disinformation, division, and democracy in 2025. Why complexity — not simplicity — is the key to understanding our past and navigating our future. And how Burns finds optimism and faith in a nation that’s always been a work in progress. The American Revolution premieres Sunday, November 16, on PBS and streams at ⁠PBS.org⁠ and the PBS App. Mosheh Oinounou (⁠⁠@mosheh⁠⁠) is an Emmy and Murrow award-winning journalist. He has 20 years of experience at networks including Fox News, Bloomberg Television and CBS News, where he was the executive producer of the CBS Evening News and launched the network's 24 hour news channel. He founded the @mosheh Instagram news account in 2020 and the Mo News podcast and newsletter in 2022.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Mo News podcast. As Moschwana here, sorry, my voice is a bit hoarse.

0:09.9

I've done a lot of interviews on a variety of topics. But the one I'm most excited about this week is the one you're about to hear with Ken Burns.

0:17.0

There are a few filmmakers out there who have shaped how we understand American history,

0:21.6

how we understand ourselves like Ken Burns, whether it was a civil war, Vietnam, baseball,

0:28.0

the Roosevelt's, the Brooklyn Bridge. He has been doing documentaries about this country

0:33.6

and the people in this country for several decades that have helped define our collective

0:38.7

memory. And so this week, he came into the studio to talk about his newest documentary out this

0:43.1

month on PBS. He's gone back to the beginning. His latest project is the American Revolution.

0:48.0

It is a sweeping six-part, 12-hour documentary premiering on PBS month, that revisits the founding of the country.

0:55.7

Not just a tale of heroism and ideals and everything that we think about, guys in Wigs in Philadelphia,

1:01.0

thinking big thoughts, but also the complicated, violent, deeply human struggle that set the stage

1:07.5

for the American victory, which he, by the way, says in this interview,

1:11.7

had a 0% chance of success at the beginning of the Revolutionary War. And what would become

1:17.2

this country that celebrates 250 years next summer? We talk about what took him so long to tell

1:22.2

the story, what he learned about the birth of democracy, division in America, and how today,

1:27.1

even with our division,

1:28.5

even with our partisanship compares to periods like the Civil War, the Great Depression, World War II,

1:33.9

and yes, the American Revolution.

1:35.5

This, I think, is a fascinating conversation you will get a lot from.

1:38.9

We talk about truth.

1:40.4

We talk about rights.

1:42.0

We talk about context.

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