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🗓️ 31 August 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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ICYMI, this episode originally aired in December of 2024. But this week a new documentary trying to reshape Jussie Smollett’s image is out called ‘Jussie Smollett: Anatomy of a Hoax.’ I spoke to his attackers, I had the fascinating opportunity to sit down with Ola and Bola Osundairo, the men known for their involvement in the Jussie Smollett case. We delved into their new book, "Bigger Than Jussie," which offers an eye-opening perspective on their side of the story. They shared their experiences growing up in Chicago, their Nigerian-American heritage, and how they got entangled in the infamous hoax. Contrary to media portrayals, they clarified many misconceptions, including their American citizenship and the fact that they were never charged with a crime. We also discussed the broader implications of the case, touching on media bias, political agendas, and the impact on movements like Black Lives Matter.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Introduction to Jussie Smollett and the Hoax
00:04:00 - Misconceptions About the Brothers
00:08:30 - Meeting Jussie Smollett
00:17:00 - Execution of the Fake Attack
00:20:00 - Aftermath and Realization
00:39:00 - Jussie Smollett's Continued Claims
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| 0:00.0 | Jesse Smolet, of course, we all know him, you know, as the Empire actor and then as the race hoax baiter in Chicago. |
| 0:16.8 | He's got a new documentary out called Jesse Smallley, anatomy of a hoax. He's in it himself. |
| 0:23.2 | And a lot of people believe this is a project to try to help him rehab his image. Oh, and by the way, |
| 0:28.9 | September 25th, he is on Fox's Special Forces with Cody Brown. So earlier this year, I sat down |
| 0:36.8 | with his attackers, Olo and Bolo, who are brothers. |
| 0:40.7 | They say they were paid by Jesse. They orchestrated this with Jesse. And Jesse wanted to take |
| 0:46.8 | advantage of all of the hype, the discussion around Black Lives Matter and convince them to fake |
| 0:54.0 | attack him. They stand by their story. |
| 0:56.0 | They've written a book. They're also in the documentary giving their side of the story. |
| 0:59.8 | Apparently, the documentary, if you haven't watched it yet, on Hulu, is supposed to essentially |
| 1:04.9 | leave it up to us to decide. Do we think Jesse Smolle is a complete liar narcissist that fake this |
| 1:10.8 | attack to gain more |
| 1:12.5 | fame and sympathy around Black Lives Matter or are there two white guys out there that really |
| 1:17.6 | attacked him? Gone, gone, tell me what y'all think. Anyhow, here very fascinating, the Olo and Bolo |
| 1:23.9 | brothers, here they are. All right, today's guests are Ola and Bola Osendero. |
| 1:29.4 | These men are the Jesse Smollett attackers. |
| 1:33.3 | Oh, and they have a new book out, bigger than Jesse. |
| 1:35.4 | I highly recommend it. |
| 1:36.6 | I read it cover to cover. |
| 1:37.7 | It was so fascinating. |
| 1:39.1 | And I learned so much about these two men. |
| 1:40.7 | I had no idea, including their sexual orientation. |
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