Hello and welcome to Little Gold Men, the award season podcast from Vanity Fair.

I am delighted and proud to introduce him as Academy Award winner.

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And the Oscar goes to the winner.

It's a tie.

And any little girl who's practicing their speech on the telly, you never know.

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I am Katie Rich.

I'm here on my own today because I conducted today's interview with Joanna Nagel, the editor of the bear.

She's Emmy nominated for season one, but of course season two of the bear premiered in June.

So we had a lot to talk about across both seasons.

And I think a show like the bear is maybe a good way to learn if you've never really thought about what editing does because editing is often invisible.

And I talked to her about this about how a lot of times your job as an editor is to make cuts and streamline a story in a way that people will never notice.

But the bear is really flashy and not just in the way that scenes are edited, but in the way that incorporates childhood photos and music and tiny insert shots of a knife cutting that kind of makes you feel differently about the scene than you wouldn't without it.

And she talked about how she and the creators of the show really built a lot of that language in solving story problems in season one and then kind of helping define like what the vibe of the bear is.

So that in season two, they could really expand on it, break some of their own rules.

She says she thinks season two is funnier than season one, which is interesting because season two also has like some of the most harrowing episodes of the bear.

But getting her perspective on it is really kind of like seeing the show through entirely different eyes.

So I had a great time talking to Joanna, and I think you'll have a great time listening to it. So now here my interview with the editor of the bear Joanna Noggle.

So I'm excited to welcome Joanna Noggle, the Emmy nominated editor of the bear.

Joanna, I know editors don't usually are aren't usually in the spotlight, but hopefully it's fun to get to dig into your work in this way with people like me.

So thanks for talking to me.

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