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Interview: Inside the Presidency - Bret Baier on Teddy Roosevelt, Trump, and the Making of Modern Power

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@mosheh / tentwentytwo

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.92K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Fox News anchor and author Bret Baier joins Mosheh for a revealing conversation about history, politics, and power. His new presidential biography, ⁠To Rescue the American Spirit: Teddy Roosevelt and the Birth of a Superpower⁠, explores how Roosevelt reshaped the presidency—and what his legacy reveals about leadership today. Baier discuses the striking parallels between Roosevelt and Donald Trump, from their battles with the press to their populist instincts and expansive use of executive power. Baier also shares insights from covering Trump up close—from flights aboard Air Force One to the current fights inside Washington over immigration raids, foreign policy, and new media restrictions at the Pentagon. They explore whether Roosevelt’s “speak softly and carry a big stick” approach could survive in 2025—and what advice Teddy might offer Trump as he defines his second term. Mosheh Oinounou (⁠@mosheh⁠) is an Emmy and Murrow award-winning journalist. He has 20 years of experience at networks including Fox News, Bloomberg Television and CBS News, where he was the executive producer of the CBS Evening News and launched the network's 24 hour news channel. He founded the @mosheh Instagram news account in 2020 and the Mo News podcast and newsletter in 2022.

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1:18.3

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to a special edition of the Mo News podcast. It's Mosuanunu here

1:23.5

with a special guest today, my friend and former colleague from Vox News, Brett Bayer,

1:28.5

he's the chief political anchor over there, the host of Special Report, longtime correspondent.

1:34.2

He has a new presidential biography out on Teddy Roosevelt. It's his sixth presidential biography.

1:39.7

And so he was in New York this week promoting the book. And so he came by to talk about the book,

1:43.8

talk about history, presidential history, as well as the state of play in Washington right now.

1:48.1

Brett has interviewed President Trump multiple times.

1:50.5

He's incredibly well-sourced at the White House.

1:52.1

In fact, he flew on Air Force One with President Trump to Alaska for that Putin summit earlier this year.

1:57.8

So we talk about all things, foreign policy, domestic policy, what he thinks

2:02.1

about the relationship between the media and Trump and some things that might surprise you,

2:05.1

as well as having been a Pentagon correspondent, what he makes of Fox News' move not to sign on

2:12.0

to the new rules and regulations there at the Pentagon as effectively the entire media

2:17.1

walked out last week.

2:19.5

So I think it's a very revealing conversation, both about Washington 120 years ago when

2:23.7

Teddy Roosevelt was president, lessons from his presidency, interesting parallels between

2:27.5

Teddy Roosevelt and Donald Trump, as well as the state of things right now in Washington,

2:33.1

just a few months into the Trump administration.

2:35.2

A reminder, the name of the book is to rescue the American spirit, Teddy Roosevelt, and the

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