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🗓️ 20 January 2023
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Mortuary schools began as embalming schools, sponsored by embalming chemical companies. Today, mortuary schools are designed to be more holistic, covering everything a new mortician may face in the industry. But what groups are being left out of this education? The last decade has brought hard discussions around serious gaps in what is taught to students and if they're ready for the reality of working in the death industry.
In this episode Caitlin talks with two funeral directors, Joél Maldonado and Ezra Salter to discuss race and gender in funeral education and practice.
Episode Guests
Joél Maldonado is a funeral director, sacred end-of-life and grief care professional, and educator. Learn more on her website, The Grave Woman.
Ezra Salter (they/them) is a Louisiana licensed funeral director and embalmer, a board member of Wake, a New Orleans based deathcare non-profit, and co-creator of the Louisiana LGBTQ+ End of Life Planning Guide.
Episode Resources
Sandi Baker article mentioned in the episode, Why Are All the Wax Heads Caucasian?
Petition to Remove Racist and Discriminatory Language From Mortuary College Dress Codes and Handbooks
Order of the Good Death, Working in Death: How Do I Become a Mortician?
Audio excerpt from Ask a Mortician webseries, Why Are Black and White Cemeteries Still Separate?
Cultural Competency: Black Hair and Skin Care for Non-Ethnic Funeral Professionals
Trans Death Rights Are Human Rights
Episode Credits:
Hosted by Caitlin Doughty
Produced by the Order of the Good Death,
Sarah Chavez and Lauren Ronaghan
Edited by Alex de Freitas
Music by Kissed Her Little Sister
Podcast artwork by Jessica Peng
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0:00.0 | The best thing that mortuary schools could do would be to think about the people that we're |
0:08.1 | going to serve as professionals and how unique an individual each individual is. |
0:14.4 | When a director, when a funeral professional is able to create that environment of calm and |
0:20.0 | use language that is current and language that is validating, that really creates a sense of |
0:25.5 | ease for those families. |
0:31.0 | Welcome to Death in the Afternoon, the podcast from your favorite funeral reform nerds |
0:36.8 | at the Order of the Good Death. I am Caitlin Dodie, Founder of the Order, and today's episode |
0:42.7 | is about mortuary school, specifically what and who the curriculum may be leaving out. |
0:51.2 | Now, what is mortuary school? In many US states, mortuary school education is required to become |
0:59.2 | a licensed funeral director, and in all states you need to attend mortuary school if you want to |
1:05.9 | become an embalmer. Long gone are the days where mortuary school students are legacy sons of the |
1:15.2 | industry who grew up living above the local funeral parlor. For many, mortuary school is the |
1:21.6 | first exposure the students will have to the death industry and how it runs and what will be expected |
1:28.2 | of them. Now, when I was in mortuary school, hold on, stop, let's go back. I need the right voice |
1:34.1 | for this. Back when I was in mortuary school more than 12 years ago when young Barack Obama was |
1:42.7 | president. There were some big holes in the curriculum. I recall learning only briefly about |
1:49.8 | cremation, the most dominant growing force in the funeral industry. Forget covering green burial |
1:56.3 | and hung funerals. Processes like Aquamation and composting were but twinkles in their mother's |
2:02.5 | eyes. My sense is that in recent years, mortuary schools have aimed to do better around teaching |
2:09.1 | the different funeral options. But choices around the dead body are only one part of being a |
2:15.3 | funeral director. Especially in larger cities, funeral homes have to be ready to care for any family |
2:22.0 | that walks through the door, and there is a large diversity of families. What if that family |
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