Welcome back and joining us now is Jay Warner Wallace.

I said at the beginning of the program, everybody loves a great detective story.

Well, this is the greatest detective story ever told.

And he is a cold case homicide detective and he is still doing consultations, but he is also a senior fellow now at the

Colson Center for Christian World View. His cases have been featured more than any other

detective on NBC's Dateline. His work has also appeared on Fox News on true crime. And many others,

he's been awarded the Police and Fire Medal of Valor for sustained superiority award for his continuing work

on cold case homicides and the Copse West Award after solving a 1979 murder.

He also has a weekly podcast. You can find him on YouTube as well. Mr. Walz, are all those listed under Cole Case Christianity is where they'll find that, right?

Yeah, you can find me under Jay Warner Wallace and all the social media stuff.

But yeah, for sure, that's helpful.

Thanks.

Good.

Yes.

And I have, I listened to his book years ago, really enjoyed the approach.

And as I also said, anybody who wants to have critical thinking,

who wants to look at the information that is presented to us,

most of us are doing some kind of a cold case investigation

because we're not right there on the scene evaluating it.

So we have to look at the credibility of the witnesses

or the journalists who are reporting this to us. So this is something that applies to

everybody. But I've said many times, you know, we talk about whether or not there is

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