Joining us now, we have a couple of guests, Doc Roberts and Jeff Weiss, and I know Jeff

because I've been on with him and Trent Luce, and he lives here close, close by. And when I covered

a couple of weeks ago, I covered a path away from addiction.

It was a guy whose name was stoner.

And that's the way he got started with, was with marijuana.

And he and his wife got moved into harder and harder drugs.

And it was a sad story about how they were trying to substitute methadone for heroin and all the rest of the

stuff and all of the side issues that happened when you become dependent on methadone and other things

like that. And Jeff called me and he said, you know, that's exactly what we do in our ministry.

He's got a couple of ministries that he and Doc Roberts are doing. And as I talked, I said, yeah, you know,

it really is. He's got a prison ministry as well as a ministry helping people with addiction,

helping people to not just get rid of that in their life, but also to fill that void.

But I said, you know, when we look at this, I told Karen, I said, this really is about

people who maybe some of them realize that they are locked in a physical prison.

Some people are locked into a spiritual prison, and some people are imprisoned, and they don't

know it.

And so I wanted to get

them on and talk a little bit about the program that they got. So joining us now is Doc Roberts and

Jeff Weiss. Thank you for joining us, gentlemen. Our pleasure. It's wonderful to be here, David. And

you know, as an avid fan of yours and getting a lot of my news and stuff from you. It's just a pleasure to be on with

you, and I certainly appreciate you giving us this time. And it's funny you mentioned our journey

and how we came to where we're at, because our ministry is actually called Free Indeed. And it's

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