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Hold up. Every day I wake up. The Breakfast Club. You're all finished or y'all is done. Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show The Breakfast Club. Shalameen to God, Jets, hilarious. Envi and Lauren LaRosa are out today. But we've got a special guest in the building. Pastor Dr. Jamal Brian is here. How you doing?

Man, I'm doing great.

Good to see you. I love that sweater you got on.

I do, too. Thank you. What does MLK Jr. mean to you, brother? Man, he means don't fight people. I got to remind myself sometimes. You just got to have peace.

It's a difficult thing.

It's easy to say it's hard to do.

You know, we was having a conversation that Jess got in trouble for because...

What?

I always want to start with me.

When the guy came into your church and you said he should be arrested. Yes.

Right? Jess was saying that y'all should just beat his ass. Because she said when she, in the church she used to grow up in in Baltimore, they used to beat people. Dang. No, don't say it. That's what you said. And her mama said, no, that is not true. Let's say. No, but I've raised it. Not even he should be arrested.

What's crazy is he's a pastor who left his church in Alabama and drove an hour and a half to disrupt somebody else's church.

But the catch to me, Charmaine, is don't arrest him.

Arrest his wife who filmed it. And do it on the same principle that y'all arrested Don Lemon and Georgia Forte. So if you're not going to deal with the protester, deal with the journalists who captured it. That's right. Has there been any movement on that? Nothing. Wow. Nothing. Now, do you know how fast we'd have been arrested if we beat them old white people up?

Yeah.

I'd have a go from me right now. Please, release Pastor Bryant. No, it's inequitable in America what

justice is supposed to look like. Justice for white evangelicals is who agrees with me. And if you don't agree with me,

then you have to pay a penalty and a cost to it. How do you personally balance righteous anger?

Yes. With spiritual peace in this world that is constantly on edge

and constantly trying you.

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