Joining us now is Barry Latter.

He's a PhD, a professor of criminal justice at John J. College.

And, of course, with the migrant crisis that is happening, now he put it in a political,

historical perspective, I should say.

He wrote an article for the Wall Street Journal, this isn't the first migrant crisis. And so we're going to talk about mass immigration crime, progressive policy.

He's also got a book. His new book is The Myth of Overpunishment, a Defense of the American

Justice System, and a proposal to reduce incarceration while protecting the public.

I think it's going to be an

interesting discussion since we have earlier in the program been talking about the Soros District

attorneys. And we just showed Titanic, which a lot of people were on there as part of their

immigration back in 1912. Joining us now is Barry Latter. Thank you for joining us, sir.

Yes, you're welcome, and I'm delighted to be with you.

Well, thank you.

Tell us a little bit about the beginning of this,

the first migrant crisis that the US went through.

And what did we, well, when was it?

When was it?

Well, starting in the late 19th century, we had an enormous influx of people into the

United States.

And the thing that fascinated me most was, despite this enormous in-migration, and this

was a very impoverished immigration. Jews from Eastern Europe, Italians from

southern Italy. More Germans, they had started coming in the middle of the century,

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