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🗓️ 5 November 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Was the 13th Amendment a grift? What was it like living through the Atlanta child murders? In the first part of an historic, wide-ranging conversation, Ben and Matt welcome the legendary MC, activist, and Atlanta community leader Killer Mike to discuss his new podcast Conversate, some of America's most dangerous conspiracies, the importance of local organizing, and the fragile nature of democracy.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:04.3 | Folks, fellow conspiracy realists, before we get started today, we thought it important to let you know this is an explicit series. |
| 0:14.4 | A little bit. |
| 0:16.3 | A little bit, a lot of it, you know what to be? |
| 0:18.5 | Tomato tomato, we are very much against censorship. |
| 0:22.6 | We try to keep things PG-13, but for this, Matt, we had to make an exception. |
| 0:28.0 | Yes. |
| 0:28.6 | Just be aware who you're listening to it around. |
| 0:31.4 | And if you're feeling a bit weak of the stomach, if not, then carry forth. |
| 0:35.6 | From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events. |
| 0:42.1 | You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. |
| 0:47.6 | A production of IHeart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. Our colleague, Noel, is on adventures, but we'll be returning shortly. |
| 1:08.8 | They call me Ben. We're joined, as always, with our super producer, Dylan, the Tennessee pal Fagan, |
| 1:14.4 | as well as our guest super producer, Ramsey, Ramjams, Yunt. |
| 1:19.0 | Whoa, Ramsey's in the house. |
| 1:21.2 | Ramsey's in the house. |
| 1:22.1 | Now, look, folks, we have something extraordinary for you this evening. |
| 1:25.4 | It's a thank you for everyone who waited for us to return from the high seas, true story. |
| 1:30.2 | Okay. Better yet went along with us. So tonight we're having a wide-ranging conversation exploring everything from Tuskegee to the 13th Amendment, wiki leaks, hip-hop programming, so much more. Get this, folks. We're not doing it |
| 1:45.6 | alone. I can't believe this is a true story, Matt. We are joined live and direct in person with the |
| 1:52.9 | activist, the musician, the legendary MC, and creator of the hit new podcast, Conversate with Killer |
| 2:00.0 | Mike. Michael, I... |
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