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Interview: Adam Serwer On White Nationalism's American Roots

It's Been a Minute

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🗓️ 16 April 2019

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

The Atlantic staff writer Adam Serwer explains how racism and white nationalism were deeply embedded in America not just from its founding, but throughout the 20th century — and how one man corralled those ideas into a grand pseudo-scientific theory that influenced U.S. immigration policy and eventually Nazi Germany. His article about that man, Madison Grant, is called "White Nationalism's Deep American Roots." Email the show at [email protected]

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0:00.0

Since the start of his campaign for president, Donald Trump's signature issue has been immigration.

0:11.1

From his comments about immigrants being rapists and murderers to the Muslim travel ban

0:15.9

to his recent threats to shut down the US-Mexico border, immigration has dominated the Trump

0:21.5

presidency.

0:22.5

There are three Trump aides who are thought to be the biggest influence on Trump when

0:26.6

it comes to immigration.

0:28.2

Jeff Sessions, Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller.

0:31.8

Of those three, only Miller, who actually began as a congressional aide to sessions, is

0:37.2

left.

0:38.4

But even in their absence, Bannon and Sessions influence is still felt.

0:43.3

And when you look at what influenced those men on immigration, the story gets really

0:47.2

interesting.

0:48.2

The Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama is now joining the Senator Sessions.

0:52.2

Thank you so much for taking time away from the family and night to join us.

0:55.3

Thank you, Steve.

0:56.3

Senator Sessions, there's this interview from back in 2015.

1:00.6

Steve Bannon's interviewing Jeff Sessions for his radio show, and they're talking about

1:04.7

immigration.

1:05.8

And Sessions praises this immigration bill from 1924.

1:09.6

The president and Congress changed the policy, and it slowed down immigration significantly.

1:16.8

When he says there were just too many people coming in.

1:19.8

And we're on a path now to search for or past what the situation was in 1924.

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