In the 90s, New York Detective Louis Scarcella locked up the worst criminals.

Putting bad guys away.

There's no feeling like it.

Then jailhouse lawyers took game led by Derek Hamilton.

Scracella took me to the precinct and alive.

20 men eventually walked free.

Now, in the Burden Podcast, after a decade of silence,

Louis Scarsella finally tells his story, and so does Derek Hamilton.

Listen to the burden on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Strange Arrivals is a production of I Heart 3D Audio.

For full exposure, listen with headphones. Lynn McNeil is an associate professor of folklore in the English department at Utah State University. She serves as the chair of the Folklore

program. She is also a regular cast member on the Travel Channel's

paranormal caught on camera. We had a wide-ranging conversation about contemporary

folklore, the paranormal, and much more. I'm Lynn McNeil. I am a folklorist at Utah State University. I run the Folkler

program there. I teach Folklore there. I work in the Folklore archives that we

have there which are really incredible. We are a great hub of

folklore studies. We offer a master's program in folklore and

undergraduate minor. It's a good place to be a folklorist. I also am very

lucky in that I get to be a folklorist in the media fairly often so I get to be a

vocalist on podcasts like this on the radio on television and mainly what I like doing is bringing the concepts of folklore studies to a really broad audience

because people don't always think in terms of what folklore is doing in a culture.

We hear the word folklore, we tend to think untrue stories, old stories,

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