You know, Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates. On tonight show, I'm a very special guest. His name is Steve Outrim. He comes to us from down under. He's in New Zealand, and he is the proprietor of the website, burners.me.

He has a long history in Silicon Valley, and was really there at the very beginning of the Internet age.

I started a company very early, and has retells that on his website.

There's a lot of information there, but also his association with Burning Man,

which this year they had to kind of do an impromptu, one at the beach in San Francisco is my

understanding. We can talk about that as well. That's the reason for the title for his

website is burners.m.m. That's what it's referencing. But on Tonight Show, we're going to talk

about something I've been following on his website. I've read most of the stuff, but it's the

topic or subject of larping live action role players, and he's done a lot of research and has

actually been involved in some of these lawsuits that are taking place between people in what would be considered the alternate media maybe.

And I kind of came up, if you ever writes like an autobiography, you can talk, you can title it,

Adventures in the Alternate Community, because Steve has a lot of connections with maybe some figures you know, you might

not know, but definitely a lot of interesting and very detailed information on his website.

So I should suggest my listeners go check that out.

So he knows a lot more about it.

He also has a podcast, which is titled Crypto Beast Beast and does a lot of different really interesting

kind of personal investigations. I think he's become pretty much a full-time researcher. So,

Steve, are you there? Hi, William. Yeah, I'm here. Thanks for the introduction. Awesome. Well,

thank you for agreeing to the interview. So finally made it happen.

I know I tried to wrangler you a couple months ago.

But for people who have not heard your name, maybe you can talk a little bit more add to what I added in the intro and just tell how you got to this point of where you started researching these very interesting individuals who

were all in litigation with each other.

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