And the Hey everyone it's Andrew Clavin with this week's interview with Jonathan

Heite I'm really happy to do this interview because when I read Jonathan's work I frequently find myself discussing it with him in my head

So it's kind of nice to have the things in my head actually appear in reality which may be caused for medication. I'm not sure but books like the

righteous mind the coddling of the American mind are books of high-level

intelligence but also books of tremendous goodwill they show a sort of

anti-dogmatic flexibility of thinking

that I just don't see very much in modern works of intelligence. He's got a new book out

called The Anxious Generation, How the Great Rewiring of Childhood is causing an epidemic of mental illness.

I want to talk to him about that and about more on his outlook on life.

Jonathan, thanks so much for coming on.

It's nice to meet you.

My pleasure, Andrew. Very nice to meet you.

So let's begin with the new book.

You're talking about a troubling trend and the psychological outlook of young people.

Can you describe what's going on?

Yes. We first noticed something was

very strange in 2014-2015 the students who arriving on college campuses were

suddenly much more fragile, much more easily offended.

They claimed that speech was violence, they were harmed by speech.

And my friend Greg Lucianov,

who was the president of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Education.

You know, noticed this and we talked about it and so we wrote a whole book,

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