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Deconstructed

Intercepted: Trump and the Future of the Ukraine-Russia War

Deconstructed

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🗓️ 27 February 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The war in Ukraine was supposed to be a short conflict. But it has been three years since Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, killing hundreds of thousands of people and destroying huge portions of the country. Now, the Trump administration has signaled that it wants to end the war in Ukraine, but there are significant questions and deep concerns about Trump’s plans for how to end the fighting.


The Trump administration has signaled it wants Ukraine to pay back the U.S. for American financial support of the war. But there are fears now that the U.S. may impose a diplomatic agreement onto Ukraine that results in crushing economic debts, damaging the country, while doing little to permanently ending the conflict..


Drop Site News’ Murtaza Hussain is joined by Rajan Menon, an expert on Ukraine and a Senior Research Scholar at Columbia University’s Saltzman Institute of War and Peace Studies.


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0:00.0

This is Intercepted.

0:15.0

This is Inter intercepted.

0:36.3

Welcome to Dropside News. I'm Murtaza Hussein.

0:40.9

Over the past several weeks, the Trump administration has sent signals that it plans to negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine. Since Russia invaded the country in 2022,

0:47.9

the conflict there has killed hundreds of thousands of people while laying waste to huge portions of the country.

0:54.1

Ukraine today is depleted and exhausted by the war.

0:57.3

But while many welcome the prospect of a negotiated ceasefire, there are deep concerns about

1:02.2

the Trump administration's plans for how to bring an end to the fighting.

1:06.2

Trump has demanded that Ukraine provide natural resources, including precious rare earth

1:10.6

minerals, to pay back

1:12.2

American financial support for the war. He has also not clearly laid out his vision for a

1:17.2

sustainable peace in the region that will prevent the war from simply restarting again in the future.

1:22.6

Keep in mind that the conflict began not in 2022, but with the 2014 Russian invasion of the Crimean Peninsula.

1:29.3

There are fears now that the U.S. may impose a diplomatic agreement onto Ukraine that

1:33.4

results in crushing economic debts that permanently immiscerate the country, while merely

1:37.9

delaying the next round of bloodshed. To discuss the current status of the war, the ongoing

1:43.4

negotiations, and the historical background to the invasion, the ongoing negotiations, and historical background

1:45.6

to the invasion, we are now joined by Rajan Menin.

1:49.1

In addition to being an expert on Ukraine, Rajan is a senior research scholar at the Saltman

1:53.8

Institute of War and Peace Studies at Columbia University.

1:57.7

Rajan, welcome to Dropsite.

1:59.6

Thank you, Murta.

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