What is the state of the intelligent design movement?

How has the conversation about origins shifted in our culture and in the church?

Well, we've got the perfect guest today because he's not only a Biola professor, Doug Axe,

but he's also written a book on intelligent design called Undeniable.

So good to have you here. Thanks for joining us.

It's great to be here.

Let me just start in. Before we talk about some of the cultural shifts that have taken place,

there's still a lot of confusion about what intelligent design is. So what is it? And how is it

different and or similar from, say, young earth creationism and old earth creationism?

Yeah, there's similarities and differences. Both... different and or similar from, say, young earth creationism and old earth creationism.

Yeah, there's similarities and differences. Both young earth creationism and old earth creationism are embarking on the project of trying to reconcile scientific results to scripture.

And therefore, they contradict each other. Younger says the earth is young,

older says the earth is old, so you can't be both. But both people in both of those camps

are actually intelligent design advocates. They may not say that because ID is not really

about making that reconciliation between scientific results and scripture. It's about just using science and asking, does the

science say either that we are cosmic accidents or that we are the products of divine

creation, and it lands on the side of we are the products of divine creation. So it's simply,

it's that simple. It's a scientific approach, not trying to reconcile science

to scripture.

So hence, we have old earth intelligent design proponents and young earth intelligent

design proponents, even here at Biola Talibu School of theology, because it's starting

with a question, is there design in nature that's empirically observable?

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