Intellectual Property Protection – Louis-Pierre Gravelle, Lawyer & Patent Agent, Partner, Robic (firm) – Diverse and Complex Issues Regarding Intellectual Property Rights in an Advancing AI World
Finding Genius Podcast
Richard Jacobs
4.4 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 5 July 2018
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Louis-Pierre Gravelle, a lawyer, engineer, and patent agent at Robic (robic.com) gives a thorough overview of the many issues that relate to patents and property rights in the ever-expanding field of artificial intelligence (AI).
Robic is a boutique IP firm based in Canada that specializes in the protection and commercialization of intellectual property (IP) rights and other intangible assets, and of course any necessary litigation and/or transaction support. Founded in 1892 by engineers, the Marion brothers, the firm established its longstanding reputation of excellence under the direction of its eponymous principal, Raymond A. Robic. Since its establishment 125 years ago, Robic has grown expansively and is now home to over 180 employees.
Gravelle's background in engineering and his particular interest in 3D printing has made him well suited for the countless AI issues and cases that are arising with hurried frequency in the advancing technology world. Gravelle states that AI patent applications are becoming commonplace, with the largest tech companies such as Microsoft, Google, and Amazon leading the way.
As much of the work in AI of years past was generated in academia, a preponderance of core information and many basic algorithms are currently part of the public domain. And this makes for an interesting set of circumstances as new products are developed that could be tied, in part, to public domain data and key information. Gravelle discusses the difficulties that can arise in the determination of whose patented process a particular AI product follows. Thus potential infringement of rights is a complex area that requires intensive research in order to establish a clear resolution of rights.
The law partner provides an overview of granted claims and infringement issues regarding IP and AI and how decisions are sometimes made in the process. For example, in the field of medical diagnostics with competitive companies that use AI engines to detect specific disease through in vivo or other diagnostics, it is often challenging to find the line where research crosses into infringement. And often times these are the areas where patent issues become lawsuits.
In regard to 3D printing, Gravelle discusses how materials such as circuits, metals, and powders that go into the finish and solidity of the products are becoming an area of great interest in the IP legal arena as well. Additionally, he explains how issues in the legal tech field are expanding rapidly. Legal tech, in basic terms, would be classified as any computer-aided tool that assists an individual working in the legal arena, such as tools used for natural language processing, etc.
As IP issues concerning AI and other intangible assets are increasing, Gravelle states that the complex issues that arise in regard to potential infringement are of great importance to rights holders.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Almost Here, Around the Corner of Future Technology Podcasts with Richard Jacobs. |
| 0:07.0 | Future Technologies is to transform our lives for better or worse or the focus of this podcast. |
| 0:13.0 | Almost here means these technologies are now here and starting to be used. |
| 0:17.0 | Or just around the corner, for Bitcoin to artificial intelligence, |
| 0:21.0 | 3D printing, blockchain, virtual reality, and more. |
| 0:25.0 | Hello this is Richard Jacobs with the Future Tech Podcast. My guest is Louis Pierre |
| 0:32.0 | Gravel. He's an equity partner at a firm called Robic, |
| 0:35.5 | R-O-B-I-C-com. |
| 0:38.2 | Louis Pierre, how you doing? |
| 0:39.2 | Very good, thank you and yourself. Thanks for having me. |
| 0:41.6 | Yeah, no problem. |
| 0:43.0 | So tell me about the work that you do at your firm and the overall work that the firm does. |
| 0:48.6 | So we're an intellectual property boutique firm, so an IP boutique. We assist clients in securing their IP rights, |
| 0:58.2 | either patent trademark copyright, as well as offering litigation support if ever it comes to that. |
| 1:05.0 | And we also have a transactional department, |
| 1:09.0 | so a number of lawyers that will assist clients in their licensing needs, so licensing in technology, licensing out, etc. |
| 1:17.0 | What technology is, I mean that's pretty broad, you know, there's a lot of technologies that there. |
| 1:22.0 | Do you deal with any of the new future ones you know AI 3D printing |
| 1:26.2 | blockchain yeah that's actually we do we do not only for |
| 1:31.6 | patent prosecution but also trademark prosecution and some licensing |
| 1:36.0 | deals as well. My background is electrical engineering which makes me suited to |
| 1:42.2 | assist clients in the AI fields as well as having a particular interest in 3D printing. |
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