Integrating NARM Into Meditation Spaces with Alli Malnik
Transforming Trauma
Brad Kammer
4.4 • 131 Ratings
🗓️ 2 July 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Meditation is a practice that intimidates many people. Silence, coupled with the act of observing rather than acting, often evokes emotions such as despair and loneliness. But what if we applied the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM©) to the experience of meditative silence?
On this episode of Transforming Trauma, host Emily Ruth is in conversation with Alli Malnik, a NARM-trained mental health counselor who frequently assists with large meditation events held worldwide. The pair discuss Alli’s professional journey and the role that NARM played in her personal healing. Alli also shares observations from her event work on efforting and discomfort and explains how she incorporates NARM themes of connection, curiosity, and trust to extend the meditative benefits beyond these organized gatherings.
About Alli Malnik:
Alli Malnik, MS, LMHC, is a NARM-trained therapist licensed in Florida and Colorado. Her current specialties focus on complex trauma, relational aspects, attachment difficulties, anxiety, and depression. She’s also trained in EMDR and assists her clients by creating a safe space to explore effective ways to relate to others.
Originally from Miami Beach, Alli attended Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton, where she received a Bachelor's degree in Elementary Education. She later earned a master’s in Mental Health Counseling from Nova Southeastern University in 2016, after working as a fourth-grade teacher. In her free time, Alli enjoys the beach, hiking, football, meditation, her dogs, and spending time with her three children.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Transforming Trauma podcast. |
| 0:08.0 | Transforming Trauma is presented by the Complex Trauma Training Center. |
| 0:11.7 | I'm your host, Emily Ruth, and I'm so glad you've joined us today. |
| 0:16.4 | Hi, Transforming Trauma listeners. |
| 0:18.3 | If you're a mental health professional working with complex trauma |
| 0:21.8 | and are interested in learning the neuroaffective relational model, we're excited to share with you |
| 0:26.7 | about our upcoming NARM Therapist trainings. The NARM Therapist Training is an advanced clinical training |
| 0:32.2 | designed for licensed mental health professionals, current mental health graduate students, and active |
| 0:37.0 | clinical interns and trainees, where you will get trained in a comprehensive developmental framework |
| 0:42.0 | and clinical approach for resolving the long-term impacts of ACEs and CPTSD. |
| 0:47.5 | As you are learning and integrating NARM, you will receive individualized support from a team |
| 0:52.3 | of skilled, passionate, and supportive trainers, |
| 0:55.2 | led by faculty members Brad Cammer, Stephanie Klein, and Marsha Black. If you're working in the field |
| 1:00.4 | of complex trauma, we encourage you to register now to get trained in NARM. For more information |
| 1:05.7 | and to reserve your spot, please visit Complextraumatraining Center.com. |
| 1:12.9 | And now for our interview, Ali Malnick as a mental health counselor licensed both in Florida |
| 1:18.0 | and Colorado. Originally from Miami Beach, Florida, she received her master's in mental health |
| 1:22.8 | counseling from Nova Southeastern University in 2016. Allie now owns a private practice located in Florida |
| 1:28.9 | where her specialties are complex trauma, relational trauma, |
| 1:32.2 | attachment difficulties, anxiety, and depression. |
| 1:35.1 | Ali is a NARM and EMDR trained therapist |
| 1:37.4 | who frequently assist in large meditation events all over the world, |
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