What's up everybody? It's Austin Rivers from Off Guard and I've got some exciting news.

Off Guard hosted by me and my guy Pasha Gigi is officially moving to our own

podcast fee. We are now dropping two shows every week. Me and Pasha go way back and talk so much hoops already

that we figured it was time to fire up the mic and let you in on these conversations.

Every week, Pasha and myself will hit on the biggest stories happening around the league.

Tap it to the show twice a week on our new off-guard feed on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Hello and welcome to this special trade emergency edition of group chat. I am Justin Verrier and joining me as always Rob Mahoney.

But we have a special guest in the Big Waz Roll. It's Bill Simmons. What's up, Bill?

Big shoes to Phil.

Glad to be here.

Happy almost New Year's, guys.

Well, just let us know when you want us to clear out

for like a five minute rant on James Harden to fully get into the

Waz head space and we'll give you the room you need. And Michael B. Jordan. This is one of my

favorite trades in a while because we have no answers yet on all four of these guys and I feel

like both teams won the trade but I'm excited to hear what you guys think.

Yeah, where do you want to start Justin? Do you want to lay out the specifics?

Sure, we can go through the details.

So out of nowhere, there's really no prelude to this trade,

as there typically is for most of these trades.

The Knicks get Ogion andobe, Precious Chua, Malachai Flynn, the Raptors get

R.J Barrett, a manual quickly, and a 20-24 second round pick. It's interesting...

From Detroit, so that's almost definitely the 31st pick in the draft.

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