When you get to Top Gun, you think you know how to fly a river.

And you get there, and right away what you realize is you are nowhere near maximizing the ability of this machine.

I went to Top Gun in a peacetime military. You know, Desert Storm was in 91. We hadn't done anything in 10 years.

I come back as an instructor in a wartime military. We want them to be prepared

for war. You got to make the training hard work. Longer, more difficult, more demanding, higher bar.

Day prep, a data prep, data fly. That's various. Sometimes you're flying five days in a row.

You come back and you debrief for five or six hours.

You know, you're there at five in the morning and you're leaving at five.

And then it's right back into the next day.

That amount of debrief, I mean, there's part of me that kind of internally asked, like, how is there that much to talk about?

Yeah, it's a good question. It's the right question to ask.

I have four dogs and they've eaten all types of different food.

We recently found Team Dog like, I believe this spring, so we've been on it for a year.

Seeger was on it first and Tiller was on it and then we put the Goldens on it.

And I mean, all the dogs eat less food, the dogs' coats are way better.

Everything about Team Dog is, I mean, I'm very impressed.

My dog trainer Justin Allen, he uses it on all like

60 dogs that are there for training um he's tried every single food in the game too and they just

stay super healthy on this this team dog ladies and gentlemen, as always, it's both an honor and a pleasure to welcome my next guest to the podcast.

He's a Marine Corps officer.

He was the pilot of F-16s, 18s, 22s, and 35s.

He was a top gun instructor, which, you know, we're going to have to get to the bottom of that.

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