Inside the movement to dismantle the government

KERA's Think

KERA

Society & Culture, 071003, Kera, Think, Krysboyd

4.8 • 861 Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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The conversation about limited government has morphed from looking at ways to reduce bureaucracy to an effort to eliminate large pieces of the government all together. Russell Muirhead is Robert Clements Professor of Democracy and Politics at Dartmouth College, and he joins host Krys Boyd to discuss why non-elected workers in “the administrative state” find themselves in the crosshairs from both the right and the left, how Donald Trump’s term might affect them, and what elimination of their functions might mean for the nation. His book, written with Nancy L. Rosenblum, is “Ungoverning: The Attack on the Administrative State and the Politics of Chaos.”

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0:00.0	The 2024 election was a lot. And now that we're past it, you might be avoiding political news
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0:45.6	Thank you. Friday, wherever you listen to podcasts. We can argue, and we do, about how big government ought to be in this country and what amount we ought to spend on keeping it going.
0:52.9	But we all agree that we do need
0:54.6	government agencies to take care of things the private sector can't or won't, right? Well, turns out
0:59.5	not so much. From KERA in Dallas, this is think. I'm Chris Boyd. My guest is raising alarm bells
1:06.7	about a stunning antipathy toward non-elected government in all forms, coupled with an effort to eliminate many functions carried out by the so-called administrative state.
1:16.4	Russell Muirhead is Robert Clemens Professor of Democracy and Politics at Dartmouth College.
1:21.3	His new book, written with Nancy L. Rosenblum, is called Ungoverning, the attack on the administrative state and the politics of chaos.
1:29.0	Russell, welcome to think.
1:30.4	Thank you. I'm delighted to be here.
1:32.3	Before we define ungoverning, maybe start by defining this thing known as the administrative state.
1:37.7	What does that term encompass?
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