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Welcome to the Untold Story, everybody.

I'm Martha McCallum, and it's great to have you join our podcast today.

I'm really glad to be joined today by Philippe Rines, who is a fairly frequent guest on our show and someone who I always like to hear from about the Democratic perspective on the 2024 elections.

So Philippe, welcome.

Thank you for having me, Martha.

So you're the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State and former spokesman for Hillary Clinton.

You have been around Democratic politics for a long time. You know all of the

landscape really well. But for those who might not be familiar with your background, I always like

to start this because it's called the untold story. Tell us a little bit about yourself and,

and, you know, the framework through which you got here.

That is a good question.

I have to think back a little bit.

I'm at the age where my memory is slipping a bit.

I think I'll do this quick.

I took a while to finish college.

But while I was taking my time, I worked in banking and finance for about seven or eight years, which later came in handy during the financial crisis.

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