This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage of the case against Rex Hewerman.

He's the man that's also known as the Long Island serial killer or the Gilgo Beach murderer.

All allegedly, he is innocent until proven guilty.

But that's who people think he is, not just Rex Huron, the family man,

the architect from Massapequa Park, who lived in kind of a hoarder house and collected massive

amounts of weapons in his basement, and it turns out child porn, too. He, as many think, is the

killer, his hair, and his wife's hair, and his daughter's hair,

found on the burlap sacs of several of the victims, the family not implicated at all.

In fact, they've been pretty much cleared.

We're going to go through some audio, some interview, and some video that they recently gave

on a new peacock documentary about the Gilgo Beach

killer. And here, what was going on behind the scenes in that house with Asa Elrop and her

children? Here to help us break down the behavior end of this, because it's a weird thing to watch.

I'll tell you that much. Robin Drake, retired FBI special agency for the

counterintelligence behavioral analysis program. Before we get into the clips, Robin, I know you just had

a chance to break this down and go through it yesterday. After watching, just overall 10,000-foot view,

what was your reaction? What a strange person I am. I loved it. Yeah. That's what I make it. And here's why, you know, many, like most of the cases we cover, Tony, you know, we don't get a closer view of the individuals involved. We have to rely on media. We have to rely on really short clips or documents or things like that to kind of assess, you know, the human beings involved here. And as my role inside the FBI was not to diagnose anyone with with any kind of mental illness or anything like that is really to do a deep dive, to understand their patterns of life to predict behavior and identify potential areas to identify

data and evidence for testimony and all these other things. And so that's what this was really

good for. You know, instead of just seeing pictures of Asa and Rex and the daughter Victoria,

you actually got to hear them, hear the voices, you know, so you can see

congruency between nonverbals and verbals when she's speaking. And so, and then all these other things

that I had questions about, about vacations and how long it took. And all these things got really

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