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The Audio Long Read

Inside the mind of a murderer: the power and limits of forensic psychiatry – podcast

The Audio Long Read

The Guardian

Society & Culture

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2021

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

When I was called in to assess Seb, I needed to understand why he had committed such a horrendous crime. But first I had to get him to talk. By Taj Nathan. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/longreadpod

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0:00.0

The Guardian Welcome to the Guardian Longread, showcasing

0:05.7

the best long-form journalism covering culture, politics, and new thinking.

0:09.9

For the text version of this and all our longreads, go to thegardin.com forward slash longread.

0:16.5

Inside the mind of a murderer, the power and limits a forensic psychiatry.

0:22.2

When I was called into a cessab, I needed to understand why he had committed such a horrendous

0:27.6

crime. But first, I had to get him to talk. By Tharj Nathan.

0:34.4

Red by Raj Ghatak. Produced by Esther Apokugeni.

0:39.7

Even before Seb had arrived at the prison, five weeks before my first visit,

0:44.4

the staff had received a notification that he ought to be subject to close monitoring.

0:49.7

While still in police custody, an out-of-hours forensic psychiatric assessment had been

0:54.4

requested. Seb had been compliant with the arresting officers, but he had given the impression

1:00.7

that he was unconcerned by what had happened. It seemed as though he didn't mind at all that he

1:05.9

was being arrested. More bizarrely, there were flickers of apparent self-satisfaction.

1:12.7

Seb had been arrested on suspicion of murdering his mother.

1:17.7

A nurse and the on-call doctor from the local forensic unit traveled to the police station,

1:22.8

but Seb declined to come out of the cell to speak to them.

1:26.2

Accompanied by police officers, the clinicians went to his cell to speak to him directly.

1:31.3

But whatever they said, Seb stuck to the same line. He had nothing to say to them.

1:37.3

He even resisted attempts to be drawn into casual conversation. The clinicians, along with the

1:43.0

on-call consultant, agreed that Seb did not require admission to hospital. Having said that,

1:49.1

this reticence, along with the particulars of the crime Seb had committed, left the assessors

1:54.3

reluctant to rule out psychiatric issues completely. The next morning, the doctor who had

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