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Apple News In Conversation

Inside the making of reality TV

Apple News In Conversation

Apple News

News Commentary, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2024

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Guest-hosted by Sam Sanders: Reality shows — like Survivor, The Bachelor, and Love Is Blind — are some of the most-watched TV series in the U.S. But how much “reality” is actually being shown? In her new book, Cue the Sun!: The Invention of Reality TV, New Yorker staff writer Emily Nussbaum reveals how this industry came to be and takes people behind the scenes of some of the top reality series. Nussbaum speaks with guest host Sam Sanders about the most surprising aspects of this divisive genre.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is in conversation from Apple News. I'm Sam Sanders sitting in for Shimita Basu. Today, how real is reality TV.

0:15.0

All right, I will admit, as we start this episode, I am a big reality TV fan, really big.

0:29.3

But dear listener, even if you don't watch reality TV, you know it.

0:34.0

The Bachelor, Survivor, Love is Blind, Vanderpump Rules,

0:38.8

all the real housewives.

0:40.9

I could go on.

0:42.4

All of those shows I just listed, they rank among the most popular

0:45.8

TV shows in the US year after year. But, and we've known this for a while,

0:52.6

there are big questions about just how real

0:55.0

these reality shows are.

0:56.8

Heavy edited would be an appropriate term.

0:59.1

Things were cut and edited a certain way.

1:02.2

So much of it was not what I remember doing and saying.

1:05.3

It was mentally taxing.

1:07.0

Physical and emotional manipulation tactics.

1:09.6

I felt worse than I've ever felt in my life.

1:12.4

I felt like there wasn't a fair shot for us.

1:14.8

The whole experience is hell on earth.

1:16.7

It was horrible.

1:18.6

Nobody who works in reality television is shocked by producers lying to or manipulating or causing

1:24.9

cast members to cry because that's literally what your job is. I'm not saying

1:28.2

that every producer is a monster, but that's literally the definition of what they do.

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