Inside the Insurrection

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

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4.7 • 964 Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Sabrina Tavernise is a national correspondent for The New York Times. She covered the Iraq War for the Times, where in 2005 she was one of the first people to document ethnic cleansing, and has reported on life in post-Soviet Russia for a variety of publications. She was a first-hand witness to the storming of the US Capitol. In this week’s conversation, Sabrina Tavernise and Yascha Mounk discuss Tavernise's experience in the Capitol on January 6, the roots of violence and civil war around the world, and why peace is elusive once violence becomes the norm. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:59.0	Hi, I'm Emily Yaffi, a member of the Board of Advisors of Persuasion.
1:04.4	I recently wrote an article in persuasion called What We Got Wrong and Right
1:10.2	about COVID-19. In it I talked to three distinguished public health experts.
1:17.0	They are Monica Gandhi in Vanai Prasad of University of California, San Francisco, and Stefan Burral of Johns Hopkins.
1:27.0	Each of them is an MD with a Masters in Public Health.
1:31.0	You could say they hold dissident views from the
1:35.2	quote consensus of public health officials on how we responded to COVID-19. Our
1:41.6	talk was far-ranging. We discussed how we'll know in the US when the
1:46.1	pandemic is over and how we're going to have to live with this virus because all
1:51.0	of them agree we're not going to get to zero COVID.
1:54.9	We talked about their concerns about the mass lockdowns and how this ended up making the
2:01.4	rich richer,
2:03.0	cosseting the comfortable, and leaving working people
2:06.8	out to serve them and therefore more vulnerable.
2:10.4	They all were very concerned about mass school closures.
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