Inside the Election stalemate – plus leading Brexiter Graham Brady MP

Inside Briefing with the Institute for Government

Institute for Government

News, Government, Politics

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🗓️ 25 October 2019

⏱️ 42 minutes

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“It’s a ‘yes, but’. But that ‘yes, but’ is political gold-dust…” This week on the podcast that explains how government works (and often doesn’t)… Boris Johnson moves his Brexit Deal further than Theresa May ever pushed hers, but not quite far enough. What are the legal and constitutional positions that hem him in? How soon would the PM need to dissolve Parliament in order to get an election this side of Christmas? Also: In public services, is outsourcing on the way out and insourcing coming in? If a contract is less a licence to print money than a “Winner’s Curse”, where next for the orthodoxy that has governed public service for decades? Plus we speak to leading Brexiter Graham Brady, chairman of the Conservative Party 1922 Committee, about rebels, backstops and the state of the Tory Party. Re-convening the Stormont Assembly – what does it mean for Northern Ireland and Brexit too? And can the panel get through the podcast without ever mentioning the Fixed Term Parliaments Act? Hosted by Bronwen Maddox with Dr Cath Haddon, Joe Owen and Maddy Thimont Jack. Audio production by Robin Leeburn at Fairly Media. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to Inside Briefing, the new weekly podcast from the Institute for Government.
0:17.5	I'm Bronwen Maddox with another look at the week's events and what they tell us about
0:21.7	how government works and sometimes how it doesn't. This week, Boris Johnson managed to take his
0:32.0	Brexit plans further than Theresa May ever managed, but not far enough to meet his October 31st, do-or-die deadline.
0:39.7	It left us, government, Parliament, the Civil Service, preparing the ground for a Brexit deal which is paused,
0:46.0	a no-deal which is not ruled out, and a general election which could land at any moment.
0:51.6	To make sense of it all, I'm joined in the studio by some of my IFG colleagues.
0:55.2	Joe Owen is director of our Brexit programme. Hi Joe. Hello.
0:58.5	This week, you tweeted that MPs were given more days to scrutinise the Wild Animals in Circuses
1:03.5	Act than government proposed for the EU withdrawal bill. What kind of response did that get?
1:08.2	Quite a lot, actually. The most interesting discussion, I think,
1:10.9	was discussing how many animals, the Wild Animals and Circus Act covered? And it was how many?
1:15.6	Well, I think it was 21 at the start of the legislation and 19 by the time it passed because two
1:20.6	of them had died. So parliamentary scrutiny is not good for everyone. Dr. Catherine Haddon is our
1:25.2	historian and constitutional agony aunt. Hi, Kath.
1:28.0	Hi. You were out in the cold with the BBC on College Green on the night of the vote on the withdrawal agreement bill.
1:35.0	What's it like to think with people constantly shouting and waving banners behind you?
1:39.0	It can be quite an interesting atmosphere. I mean, in a way it's good to see people out there caring about the issues.
1:45.2	At the moment, what's most interesting is they seem to have moved into winter modes. They have
1:48.7	lots of lights going on, so it's quite festive. Great. That is far from over. And also with us is
1:54.2	Maddie Timont Jack, a senior researcher on the Brexit team. Hi, Maddie. Hello. You were
1:58.7	tweeting a lot, an awful lot from Miyorka, where I think you were during the historic Saturday sitting.
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