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Inside the Democrats’ Campaign Spam Machine

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KQED

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6656 Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

“Democracy is doomed unless you give $15 RIGHT NOW.” Sound familiar? Those alarmist texts flooding your phone are part of a Democratic fundraising machine Stanford political science professor Adam Bonica says is more scam than strategy — sending millions to consultants while actual campaigns see a small fraction. We’ll talk about how the system works, who profits and why changes could be on the horizon. Guests: Adam Bonica, associate professor of political science, Stanford University - his Substack is called "On Data and Democracy" Brian X. Chen, lead consumer technology writer, The New York Times Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:33.7

Music From KQBD in San Francisco, I'm Nina Kim. Coming up on forum, what's up with all those political fundraising texts?

0:52.9

Chances are you've gotten one saying things like,

0:55.2

unless you give $15 right now, democracy is doomed. doomed in all caps, of course.

1:01.8

Stanford professor Adam Bonica says they're likely part of a political fundraising machine

1:06.6

that could be described as more scam than spam, sending hundreds of millions of dollars raised to consultants,

1:13.5

while actual campaigns see just a fraction.

1:16.8

Bonica has taken a deep dive into how the system works on the Democratic Party side

1:21.2

and who profits.

1:22.7

He'll tell us why changes could be on the horizon after this news.

1:30.9

Welcome to the. I'm Mina Kim.

1:33.5

Does it feel like political fundraising texts and emails are constant, and also increasingly unhinged?

1:40.7

If you've gotten messages claiming Nancy Pelosi is sobbing because you haven't donated yet,

1:45.8

or that your donation will be matched by some astronomical percentage,

1:49.8

you've probably met the Democratic fundraising machine that Adam Bonica says is treating its supporters like Marx

1:57.7

and ultimately destroying the party's brand.

2:01.3

Listeners, if you get these kinds of messages, how do they make you feel?

2:05.5

Bonica is Associate Professor of Political Science at Stanford, and his substack is called

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