Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on The Right Show.

We are very, very excited to have someone with us that probably a lot of folks in our audience are already familiar with through social media.

Robbie Starbuck is our guest.

And you may recognize his posts from going after lots and lots of companies about their DEI programs and really creating awareness and actual like online campaigns

to get those companies to stop the crazy DEI stuff that they've got going on. But you may not

know that Robbie used to be a music video director. So we want to find out how you started at point

A and are now basically at point Z. Yeah. They're diametrically

opposed sort of arenas, right? It is interesting. They're both probably the most like difficult

arenas to, you know, sort of penetrate in different ways. And, you know, on the music side of things, essentially, if I go all the way back,

as a kid, I was just in love with music and in love with films. And so I knew I wanted to,

you know, do something in that arena. And I figured, why don't I just fuse the two together, right?

And so as a kid, I was like sneaking into shows and filming artists and then showing them what I filmed.

And it was probably awful at first. I was probably terrible because I completely self-taught, right?

And, you know, eventually it was good enough where one of them was like, hey, we want to use this.

Can we give you a couple hundred bucks, you know, or something like that? It was something ridiculous.

And like, okay. And where was it? Oh, I was in the area. I lived in Temecula, California. That's where I mostly grew up. But, like, outside of that area, I mean, like, I would drive, like, hundreds of miles sometimes, you know, at, like, 15, 16 years old to go do this. So, you know, I'd kind of go anywhere and try to film artists that, you know, I felt like, okay, maybe people will want to see what they're like live, right? And you got to remember, this is early on where there's not a lot of videos of artists online, you know, on the internet. But this is like, this is like 90s?

It was like 2000. When was this? The 2000s. You know, this was early on, early YouTube, you know, things like that. So I was one of the early people in the partner program at YouTube. Okay. Because we had tons of music videos. So I actually did interesting deals with labels. Like, I think in Hollywood,

it's very hard to break in if you're not, you know, connected to, you know, the Hollywood elite,

or you're not from a wealthy family or something along those lines, right? And for me, I was none of

those things. And so I had to have a differentiator. And for me, it was that we were breaking the

mold of how this had always worked. When I came into the industry, everything had kind of a differentiator. And for me, it was that we were breaking the mold of how this had always worked.

When I came into the industry, everything had kind of still been shot on film. And it was very

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