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Ukrainecast

Inside the biggest prisoner exchange since the Cold War

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2024

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Sasha Skochilenko spent over two years behind Russian bars before being part of the biggest prisoner exchange since the Cold War. She explains why supermarkets are effective places for protest, what helped her survive in prison and how western prisoners were put in business class on the flight home following her release.

And a friend of Ukrainecast makes a surprise appearance…

Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov and Cordelia Hemming. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The senior news editor is Richard Fenton-Smith. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

You can join the Ukrainecast discussion on Newscast’s Discord server here: tinyurl.com/ukrainecastdiscord

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:05.0

It's 937 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

0:10.0

And today, we're hearing from Sasha Scotchy Lenko.

0:13.0

Jail in Russia, it could kill, so it is not a joke.

0:20.0

Every person which is now in Russian prison could be dead.

0:25.7

Sashazka Chilenka is obviously the Russian journalist activist artist who was involved in the biggest exchange of prisoners between Russia and the

0:36.3

West since the Cold War.

0:38.7

She was sentenced to seven years in jail under a fake news law and her act of defiance which will describe in a

0:46.8

moment or two came several weeks after the full-scale invasion and she basically ended up in

0:51.8

jail between April 2022 to August this year.

0:56.0

Two and a half years.

0:57.0

And we are going to hear the inside story, in Sasha's own words of that prisoner exchange.

1:03.5

This is a crane craft.

1:05.6

Ukraine cast from business.

1:08.3

Evil cannot be trusted.

1:10.4

Ask pre-Gosin.

1:11.5

You are not dealing with a politician, but with a bloody monster.

1:16.0

Is there a need for a serious opponent?

1:18.0

Why?

1:19.0

Ukraine is unbroken, unbound, and unconquered.

1:22.0

It's not just about Ukraine, it's about the whole future of Europe.

1:25.8

I don't understand what this war is for.

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