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Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

Inside the Anna Kepner Cruise Tragedy: What SHOCKING Family Statements Reveal!

Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary

True Crime Today

True Crime, News, News Commentary

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🗓️ 12 December 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Eighteen-year-old Anna Kepner died on a cruise ship. Her sixteen-year-old stepbrother is the suspect. Now the public is hearing two competing narratives: the parents describing a picture-perfect blended family, and outside witnesses describing aggression, chokeholds, and tension adults insist never existed.

In this interview, former FBI Special Agent Robin Dreeke breaks down how investigators read these conflicting accounts. What signals truth? What signals narrative-protection? And how do you tell the difference between a family genuinely blindsided — and a family rewriting history?

We explore the grandparents’ “everything was fine” statements, the ex-boyfriend’s drastically different perspective, the minimized reports of chokeholds, and the strange detail that sleeping arrangements were handled through a travel agent rather than the teenagers themselves. Stacy presses an important question: what does that say about the family’s communication — and who was actually being considered?

This is a breakdown of behavior, messaging, and the subtle cues investigators look for when tragedy fractures a family story.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Bruske, Stacey Cole and Todd Michaels.

0:08.8

Let's move on to another case.

0:11.4

18-year-old Anna Kepner died on a cruise ship, her 16-year-old stepbrother, is the suspect.

0:16.8

Since then, we've heard wildly different accounts.

0:19.5

Grandparents saying everything was fine.

0:22.4

You know, and I get it.

0:23.6

They're grandparents.

0:24.4

They're going to see things through their prisms.

0:25.9

Parents pushing the happy, blended family narrative, the three amigos.

0:30.6

While the ex-boyfriend and other stepbrother describe aggression, chokeholds, and tension.

0:36.1

The adults claim they never saw that.

0:39.3

So how do investigators read these statements? What signals truth and what signals damage control?

0:46.5

Robin Drake, retired FBI special agent, former chief of the counterintelligence. Behavioral

0:50.5

analysis program is with us to help break all of this down. Robin, when you're looking

0:55.4

at conflicting statements from family members after a tragedy like this, what are your first

1:01.5

behavioral cues that tells you, you know, someone's being truthful versus someone protecting a

1:08.3

narrative versus someone just seeing it through their,

1:11.5

their prism in a really innocent way?

1:14.3

You know, the first thing that strikes me when you hear a lot of conflicting statements is,

1:17.7

wow, no one in this family is close at all because no one's talking.

1:20.5

No one has the same context.

1:22.6

True.

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