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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Inside Syria, Iran, and the Terror Networks Targeting America (with Sarah Adams)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

On today's episode, Andy sits down with Sarah Adams, a former CIA targeter, to discuss her journey from academia to the frontlines of counterterrorism. They unpack the complexities of intelligence work, the shifting dynamics of the Syrian conflict, and the influence of Iran and Russia in destabilizing the region. Sarah shares an unfiltered view on the current failures in intelligence gathering, the resurgence of terrorist threats like Al-Qaeda and ISIS, and the critical role local law enforcement must play in safeguarding American communities. Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original Sponsors: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ MTNTOUGH Go to ⁠https://mtntough.com⁠ and enter code CHANGEAGENTS to receive 40% OFF - a savings of about $100 off your MTNTOUGH+ annual subscription. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

But Hezbo has played the long game, right?

0:02.7

They have, as you know, started attacks against us in the 80s.

0:05.9

They have support networks all over the Americas.

0:10.1

And then they have made these alliances over the years, you know, on the other side of the aisle, right?

0:15.1

Assuming and Shias are starting to come together.

0:17.7

And really, it's less is Iran a threat, is Hezbollah, threat, is Al-Qaeda, a threat,

0:23.7

is Jules, a threat. It's this fact that they're coming together and deciding to work together

0:29.8

that really is the homeland threat coming up because they're a more powerful force uniter.

0:38.0

How can I help?

0:39.2

How can I be useful in ending needless suffering?

0:42.8

Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

0:48.1

We have to organize a social movement.

0:52.8

We have an opportunity to lead by example versus just

0:56.1

talking, potter.

0:58.9

I think the more

1:00.0

people in this fight, the more we grow,

1:02.3

eventually it could change.

1:03.6

The people are the ones that can make the change. Well, I know we're going to talk a bunch about Syria.

1:21.5

But first, I know you've been on Sean's show a bunch, a bunch fantastic episodes.

1:27.5

But to help make it, yeah, if you can help make it stand alone, I think we're going to have to unpack your. I know you've been on Sean's show a bunch, fantastic episodes. Thank you.

1:28.2

Yeah.

1:44.9

If you can help make it stand alone, I think we're going to have to unpack your agency career just a little bit. Just to give people context where you're coming from. So at whatever level you want to, I mean, I have tons of questions like, hey, how'd you end up at the agency? Why would you want to do that? How did you become a target? How do all these things work, Sarah?

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