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BBC Inside Science

Inside Sentience

BBC Inside Science

BBC

Technology, Science

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2022

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Marnie Chesterton and guests mull over the saga of an AI engineer who believes his chatbot is sentient. Also, climate scientists propose a major leap in earth system modelling, that might cost £250m a year but would bring our predictive power from 100 km to 1km. And the story of a Malaysian Breadfruit species that turns out to be two separate strains - something locals knew all along, but that science had missed. Philp Ball's latest book, The Book of Minds, explores the work still to be done on our conception of what thinking is, and what it might mean in non-human contexts. Beth Singler is a digital ethnographer - an anthropologist who studies societal reaction to technological advancement. They discuss the story this week that a google AI engineer has been suspended on paid leave from his work with an experimental algorithm called LaMDA. He rather startlingly announced his belief that it had attained sentience, publishing some excerpts from interactions he has experienced with it. Prof Dame Julia Slingo this week has published a proposal in Nature Climate Change, co-authored with several of the world's greatest climate scientists, for a multinational investment in the next generation of climate models. Currently, models of the global climate have a resolution of something like 100km, a scale which, they suggest, misses some very fundamental physics of the way rain, clouds and storms can form. Zooming into 1km resolution, and including the smaller physical systems will allow scientist to better predict extreme events, and crucially how water interacts in a real way with rising temperatures in different climes. And can zooming in on taxonomy reveal insights in conservation and biodiversity? Researchers in the US and Malaysia have described a species of breadfruit that has hitherto been considered one species by mainstream science. Locals have long described them as different species, and the genetics proves that view correct. Can more local, granular knowledge help us get a better handle on the conservation status of our planet's biodiversity? Emily Bird Reports. Presenter Marnie Chesterton Reporter Emily Bird Producer Alex Mansfield

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0:36.2

Hello there, you're listening to the Inside Science Podcast,

0:39.0

first broadcast on the 16th of June 2022.

0:43.0

Lots to talk about this week, as an engineer claims his artificial intelligence is not only sentient,

0:49.4

but is also a real sweetheart and that we need to be nicer to the machine.

0:53.8

We ask Alexa for a second opinion.

0:56.4

Alexa, are you sentient?

1:00.1

Artificially, maybe, but not in the same way that you're alive.

1:05.2

Alexa is landessentient.

1:09.0

Here's something I found on the web.

1:11.6

According to Magic.com, they are listed as a non-sensitient species.

1:17.6

Did that answer your question?

1:19.2

Not really, but my guests might help more.

1:21.6

And you might know Jack Frute is the latest meat alternative to add to a taco, or maybe not,

1:27.0

but you probably didn't know that local communities are helping conservation scientists

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