Inside Facebook’s Decision to Ban Trump
Deep Background with Noah Feldman
Pushkin Industries
4.4 • 848 Ratings
🗓️ 10 February 2021
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Monika Bickert, Vice President of Content Policy at Facebook, takes us inside the decision to indefinitely suspend former President Donald Trump’s account. Host Noah Feldman details what this move means for free expression in the United States and what it tells us about Trump’s second impeachment trial.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin. |
| 0:08.7 | It's hard to read the news these days without asking yourself, how did we get here? |
| 0:13.8 | Fiasco is a history podcast for the co-creators of Slow Burn. |
| 0:17.6 | In our first season, Bush v. Gore, we examine an unmistakable turning point in American politics, the 2000 election, which resulted in a high-stakes stalemate, ended with one of the most controversial rulings in Supreme Court history. |
| 0:30.5 | So if you're trying to make sense at the present moment, check out Fiasco, Bush v. Gore. Listen on theHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. |
| 0:42.1 | From Pushkin Industries, this is deep background, the show where we explore the stories behind the stories in the news. |
| 0:49.5 | I'm Noah Feldman. This week, former President Donald Trump's second impeachment trial is taking place |
| 0:57.5 | in the Senate. At the core of the trial is Donald Trump's speech. What did the president say, |
| 1:04.7 | and when did he say it? From the standpoint of the House managers, Donald Trump incited violence on January 6th when he gave |
| 1:14.0 | the speech on the ellipse, encouraging his followers to march on the Capitol, which they then occupied. |
| 1:21.5 | From the standpoint of Donald Trump's defense, there was no intimate connection, no causal connection, |
| 1:27.2 | no connection at all, they say, |
| 1:29.1 | between what the president had to say at the time and what the rioters did. But impeachment was |
| 1:35.8 | not the only and possibly not even the most serious consequence to Donald Trump of his speech |
| 1:40.9 | on January 6th. In the aftermath of the attack on the Capitol, Twitter suspended |
| 1:46.3 | Donald Trump permanently and Facebook suspended Trump indefinitely. Those two suspensions |
| 1:54.1 | effectively blocked Donald Trump from social media, which had been the oxygen for his campaign |
| 2:00.4 | and the main method that he used to |
| 2:02.7 | communicate to his public during his presidency. |
| 2:06.2 | The consequences for the question of free expression and social media could not be greater. |
| 2:12.5 | And indeed, after Joe Biden's inauguration, Facebook decided to refer the question of Trump's suspension |
| 2:18.7 | to its newly created Facebook Oversight Board, a group of 20-plus experts from all over the world |
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