Inside Facebook's Battle for Domination, with Sheera Frenkel and Cecilia Kang

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🗓️ 20 July 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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"My goal was never to just create a company. I wanted to build something that actually makes a really big change in the world.” – Mark Zuckerberg How did it all go wrong for Mark Zuckerberg, the founder and CEO of Facebook? How did a company that said it wanted to bring people together become one of the most potent tools for polarisation in the world? According to The New York Times reporters Sheera Frenkel and Cecilia Kang, the missteps we’ve seen in the last five years are not an anomaly but an inevitability: this is how the platform was built to perform. In a period of great upheaval, growth has remained the single focus of Zuckerberg and his COO Sheryl Sandberg. In this week's episode, Frenkel and Kang speak to Josh Glancy of The Sunday Times to share the revelations of their new book An Ugly Truth. Drawing on unrivalled sources, Frenkel and Kang give us an unprecedented view inside the politics, alliances and rivalries within one of the most powerful companies in the world. To get the Intelligence Squared discount on the book click here: https://www.primrosehillbooks.com/product/an-ugly-truth-inside-facebooks-battle-for-domination-sheera-frenkel-cecilia-kang/ Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:10.1	politics and power from the Caesars to Sunack, who gets to Winpar, who is excluded,
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0:21.1	an authority. And how does the nature of power vary across different times and cultures?
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0:34.6	at 7pm BST. Put your questions first live as we discuss power and politics down the edges.
0:40.9	When approached by reporters outside the White House last Friday, President Joe Biden was asked
0:46.0	what is your message for platforms like Facebook? In response he said they're killing people
0:50.8	in their refusal to deal with misinformation around vaccines on their platforms.
0:55.3	But how big of a threat really is Facebook and its leadership under Mark Zuckerberg?
1:00.3	Well, this week we have Shira, Frankel and Cecilia Kong. They're the authors of the explosive
1:05.6	new book, an ugly truth inside Facebook's battle for domination, and in conversation with Josh
1:11.4	Glancy they joined us for an online event that tells the inside story of what's really been
1:16.0	going on in Facebook in the last few years, and what the goals are for the company going forward.
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