Hi, everyone.

Hi, everyone. I'm Gia Tolentino, and welcome to a midweek bonus episode of the White Lotus

Official Companion podcast to Season 3.

So White Lotus is always about desire and transgression and identity and what's buried and what comes to the surface.

And so much of it bends itself around money.

But because this is the show that it is, it all is focused around human relationships.

And specifically a lot of it around love and sex.

That's where you see the way people

hide from themselves and reveal themselves and what they say they want and what they really want,

and how they lie, and whether they lie, et cetera, et cetera. And so we thought, why not talk to

Dan Savage, the author of Savage Love and the host of the Savage Love cast. He is someone

whose work I have been consuming since, I don't know, 20 years ago when I was 16 and kind of

learning about what sex could be other than what had been taught to me in high school.

I feel like I spent so much of college reading Savage Love columns. And I, you know, one could

argue that to whatever extent we have developed a kind of healthy, open sexual culture in adulthood, we owe a lot to dance work over the last few decades.

So I was really excited to talk to him.

You might have already heard him on the look back portion of this podcast breaking down Ethan and Daphne's relationship. And so we're excited to have him back to talk episode seven.

I'm so excited to talk to Dan Savage, who I've been a fan of for a really long time. Dan is, of course,

the host of the Savage Love cast, author of Savage Love. Welcome.

Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here.

Let's talk about all the fucked up psychosexual dynamics going on in season three of the White Lotus.

You talked on The Lookback podcast about how, you know, season two, it was the bedroom forest. It was, you know, this was much more

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