Since it came to power, what we've really seen is an explosion in these long-arm policing operations.

Last fall, investigations by the non-profit Safeguard Defenders revealed that there were over 100

secret overseas Chinese police stations in at least 53 countries around the world.

Last April, the DOJ announced two arrests in connection with one such station in New York.

Now you have a regime that is openly writing down that is legitimate to engage in kidnapping,

to bring people back. In this episode, Safeguard Defenders' campaign director, Laura

Harth, breaks down how these Chinese overseas outposts control the Chinese diaspora and repatriate

people illegally. This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Janie Kellek.

Laura Harth, such a pleasure to have you back on American Thought Leaders.

Thanks for having me on. It's been a few years since you've been on the show,

and you have been doing some amazing work. You broke the story, your organization broke the story

of the existence of these what they call Chinese police stations, and all sorts of countries

are on the world. Most recently, in the fall of 2022, we learned of one such setup in Manhattan,

Chinatown. I want to start there, because that's what people will remember.

And so, just give me the whole picture of the realities. What are these things? Why are they there?

So, Safeguard Defenders, we came across the existence of these so-called overseas police

service stations, which is a setup between public security authorities in China,

in cooperation with United Front-linked groups around the world, because what we

uncovered was well over 100 such stations in at least 53 countries around the world. So,

this is a global endeavor. Now, we came across them, because we had been tracking the CCP's

illegal repatriation methods, right? So, the illegal long-arm policing operations carried out

by authorities from China, by CCP agents around the world, to coerce people back to China,

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