Injustice: How Politics and Fear Vanquished America's Justice Department with Investigative Reporters Carol Leonnig and Aaron C. Davis.
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🗓️ 20 January 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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In this episode of the Bill Press Pod, Bill speaks with Carol Leonnig and Aaron C. Davis about their new book, Injustice: How Politics and Fear Vanquished America's Justice Department. They discuss the transformation of the Department of Justice (DOJ) under the Trump administration, highlighting how it shifted focus to serve Trump's political and personal agendas. The conversation covers significant actions taken by the DOJ, such as targeting political adversaries, unprecedented raids on journalists, and the controversial handling of the FBI's investigation into Trump's classified documents. They also delve into how the Biden administration's DOJ, led by Merrick Garland, hesitated in taking swift action against Trump after January 6th and their overall cautious approach to investigating Trump, which may have impacted public trust. The discussion explores the lasting damage to the DOJ's credibility and the challenges of restoring public confidence in the face of a divided nation. You can get a copy of their great book here, Injustice: How Politics and Fear Vanquished America's Justice Department.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, friends and neighbors. Good to see you again, and welcome back to the Bill |
| 0:11.2 | Press pod. But there's one thing we remember about the 2024 campaign. It's Donald Trump's |
| 0:17.4 | complaint about Joe Biden weaponizing the Justice Department to go after him. |
| 0:23.5 | Of course, the truth is Democrats did not weaponize the Justice Department. |
| 0:29.2 | Too bad. They should have. If they had, Donald Trump would probably be in federal prison today |
| 0:35.1 | instead of in the Oval Office. |
| 0:37.8 | But now it's Trump himself who has big time weaponized the Justice Department. |
| 0:43.9 | With his loyal servant, Pam Bondi, he's turned the once independent department into his own |
| 0:48.8 | personal law firm, sicking DOJ lawyers on his political opponents, James Comey, John Bolton, Letitia James, |
| 0:56.4 | who knows who could be next. |
| 0:58.5 | Trump's destruction of the Justice Department is all spelled out in a powerful new book called |
| 1:04.0 | Injustice, how politics and fear vanquished America's Justice Department. |
| 1:10.7 | Its authors join us as today's guests on the podcast. |
| 1:15.0 | Two veteran investigative reporters for the Washington Post, Aaron Davis and Carol Lenny. |
| 1:20.8 | Carol has now moved on to senior investigative correspondent for MS now. |
| 1:26.7 | Carol Lennox, Aaron Davis, welcome to the Bill Press Pod, and congratulations on that |
| 1:31.3 | great new book, Injustice, how politics and fear vanquished America's Justice Department. |
| 1:37.5 | Good to have you on the Bill Press Pod. |
| 1:39.3 | Thanks so much for having us, Bill. |
| 1:41.3 | So, Carol, let me start with you, too. |
| 1:43.8 | We know that President Trump has renamed |
| 1:45.8 | the Department of Defense. I was struck by a quote in the introduction to your book, where you talk |
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