Hey Jeremy, hey Jeremy Hammond, my friend is an investigative reporter and I would say a foreign policy expert and now I'm just asking you guys again, an amazing reporter, an amazing writer and I love all the books that you have behind you like and I just wish I could plan a day in that library.

I'm a good senior, Andrew has the CIA and intelligence agencies and all of the other things that you've been writing about for many years.

Today I wanted to talk to you about Paul Thomas about Dr. Paul Thomas because you just got an article on Jeremy, tell us where your website is so that people can visit you.

Yeah Jeremy are hammond.com so we got my middle initial in there Jeremy are hammond.com and the article is Oregon Medical Board suspends Dr. Paul Thomas for practicing uniform, we can send a little bit lengthy title, but it gets the message across and that's exactly what's happened.

We're publishing it and serializing it in small pieces because it's very, very old article on the defender.

I tell us what happened and I of course know Paul Thomas is a medical hero in Oregon people knowing foreign why he runs the clinic and that takes patients who vaccinate and he takes patients who don't vaccinate.

He doesn't make a, he doesn't make a judgment from the threshold.

And he did with our friend Jack Wilder James, a lion's wilder of the scientists.

He did an extensive study recently of his database of Haitian health which isn't extraordinary study so tell us about that.

Yes, that's that was published on November 22nd, just not that long ago several months ago, and what they did is they looked at his patient data, they looked at all patients born into his practice.

And so that was, you know, they didn't want to confound the study by including patients who had come from other practices, you know, they really wanted to look at patients who had only been in a practice that respect informed consent as opposed to practices where they have been expelled for not following the CDC's guidelines or where patients were coming to him who were already vaccine injured.

And so they took those patients and they then also subdivided them into patients who are completely unvaccinated, never received any vaccines.

And then and then looked at variably vaccinated individuals. So, you know, most of the patients in this practice were vaccinated, not according to the CDC schedule, however, they're just everyone was making individual decisions about which vaccines they should get and the timing of the vaccines.

Individualized approach in his practice. And so they they compared health outcomes.

He actually had his own schedule.

It sounds weird.

Right, I knew him is, you know, the author of the vaccine friendly plan, so a book he published, I forget which year 2016 maybe.

And so he in that book, he does lay out an alternative schedule, but it's not and this is one of the things that the board gets wrong where they say that he's they accuse him of pressuring patients to vaccinate according to this alternative schedule.

Which completely misses the whole point of this of his approach, which is not like the vaccine friendly plan doesn't present an alternative one size fits all schedule.

That's not the whole idea. The whole idea is that it's just kind of like a guideline of, you know, this is an example of a way you could do it essentially the main focus of the vaccine friendly plan is to reduce the exposure to aluminum and make sure you're spacing out aluminum containing vaccines.

And if at all possible choosing vaccines with lower aluminum content, but that's just one approach. And so really the concept of the book and the concept of his practice and integrative medicine integrative pediatrics there in Portland is individualized approach to vaccinations.

So, you know, taking each individual child making informed consent decisions based on which vaccine, which disease family medical history, things like this.

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