Information Ecology and 19th-Century Naturalism at Verify 2024
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 10 April 2024
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Hosted by the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation Cyber Initiative and Aspen Digital, Verify 2024 brings together journalists and cyber and tech policy experts to discuss critical issues in cybersecurity. For this live recording of the Lawfare Podcast, Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down at Verify 2024 to talk about information ecology and 19th-century naturalism with Alicia Wanless, the Director of the Partnership for Countering Influence Operations at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and Chinmayi Sharma, an Associate Professor at Fordham Law School.
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| 0:30.0 | We also need to talk about the information environment in the same way and right now |
| 0:37.0 | it's being used by whatever scholar is talking about it to mean whatever they're looking |
| 0:41.6 | at. So some people think that it's just |
| 0:43.3 | digital media. Some people think it's just news media. This is a problem. Again, I would suggest |
| 0:48.8 | that what we're talking about is the space where people process information to make sense of the world and to do that we use tools from |
| 0:54.7 | alphabets to AI to process information into things we can share like outputs of spoken word to |
| 1:00.0 | videos and everything else that will come along in the future. |
| 1:03.0 | And the information environment then is all those three things |
| 1:06.7 | and the relationships between them and the conditions that end up affecting them, |
| 1:09.8 | like economy and education, etc. |
| 1:12.0 | So we need to look at that bigger system and see how |
| 1:14.7 | we all sled it. Great once we have that then maybe we can go and start looking at |
| 1:18.6 | information ecosystems. Now early days to say this because we haven't been looking at it but maybe we can look at factors that can be measured over time |
| 1:25.3 | Maybe it's things like infrastructure how it's maintained how people access it |
| 1:30.0 | literacy levels, |
| 1:33.0 | capacity for actually processing information, |
| 1:35.0 | the means through which they do that, |
| 1:37.0 | the quality of the, let's say news content that they're accessing. |
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