Indictment Four Trump
Americast
BBC
4.3 • 3.1K Ratings
🗓️ 15 August 2023
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump has been criminally charged for the fourth time in a frenzied five months. Now he’s accused of trying to interfere with the result of the 2020 election in Georgia.
The Americast team stays up late into the Atlanta and Washington nights (while Justin mans the Radio 4 studio) to talk through what’s in the indictment – and why this one could be the most challenging yet for Trump.
HOSTS: • Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter • Sarah Smith, North America editor • Anthony Zurcher, North America correspondent
GUEST: • Josh McKoon, Georgia Republican Party chairman
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This episode was made by Daniel Wittenberg. The technical producer was Philip Bull and the editor was Sam Bonham.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts. |
| 0:04.6 | Okay, folks, it's Justin here in London. |
| 0:07.7 | It's just coming out to 5 o'clock in the morning. |
| 0:09.6 | I'm doing my today shift actually, but I've hopped into a studio where rather worrying me I'm |
| 0:14.5 | being asked to do all sorts of things myself including recording what I'm doing |
| 0:18.4 | which I'm done for a long long time since I work briefly in local radio I've got |
| 0:22.4 | to operate the faders as well but anyway |
| 0:24.0 | look in a sense that is not the important thing here because we're to talk about something |
| 0:31.2 | Sarah that is much more important than my difficulties in a studio. |
| 0:34.4 | The fact that I am here and that you are rushing between things as well suggests the importance |
| 0:40.8 | and the suddenness actually of what has happened. We knew it was coming |
| 0:44.7 | didn't we but when these things happened they happened very suddenly and there is an |
| 0:48.0 | awful lot to talk about. So Sarah over to you. Yeah we've been waiting throughout the evening and it's now almost midnight here in Atlanta, in Georgia and we've finally seen the contents of this fourth indictment against Donald Trump. And it's a big one. It's 98 pages long and it |
| 1:06.6 | charges not just Donald Trump but 18 other people as well as part of a widespread criminal |
| 1:12.2 | enterprise as it's described. |
| 1:14.0 | Basically this indictment lays out a huge lengthy complex and involved conspiracy |
| 1:21.0 | to try and overturn the results of the 2020 election here in Georgia. |
| 1:26.0 | It mentions other things that happened in Arizona and in Pennsylvania as well. |
| 1:30.0 | It goes into all sorts of detail and it's everything from meetings behind closed doors |
| 1:35.1 | telephone calls in which Donald Trump and his allies were bullying election officials |
| 1:39.9 | the plan to put together alternate electors and pressure Mike Pence into accepting fraudulent |
| 1:46.0 | votes, even tweets, there's a number of tweets from Donald Trump that are mentioned in this, |
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