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For the Wall Street Journal editorial board, it's taken me back to that moment,

because these many years later, more than 20 years later now,

the attack on the train and the subsequent violence that led to

Southernan's reporting, a thousand deaths, always in the context of a man

I did not recognize at the time, but is now the very powerful and effective and popular leader of India.

Norenta Modi, Southernan, a very good evening to you.

I just wanted to make sure I conveyed the mystery of what happened in Gujarat in 2002,

because your column speaks to an investigation by the BBC all these years later

that is very much upset, Mr. Modi.

I understand, but it's hard to recover what it is about Gujarat

and what it is about the BJP that is so controversial, both inside and outside of India.

My memory at the time is being told that there were radical elements in Gujarat

who believed in violence and intimidation and separatism.

In Gujarat, those were troubled times.

The world was in the first days of reacting to the attack on New York and Washington.

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